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Offline pablo d

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I’ve been on mouse overload for the last few weeks. Playtech lent me a couple of their Razer mice to play with (a Mamba and an Abyssus), then our Battlefield team received a boxful of Razer Diamondbacks because we’re awesome and stuff, and then I found myself tinkering with the Razer Deathadder on the stage PCs at xLAN. Make that a Razer overload as well.

Anyhoo, now that I’ve familiarised myself with them all, I will introduce you to them one by one, and give you my personal opinion on them all...

Diamondback 3G.




The cheapest of the bunch with an NZ RRP of $65, the Diamondback 3G is an updated version of the hugely popular original Diamondback mouse released a few years ago. Sadly, I don’t think it has been enjoying the same success as its predecessor, most likely because the gaming mouse market has since been saturated.

On paper it is almost identical to the ubiquitous Logitech MX518, with its 1800DPI infrared sensor, programmable side buttons, 5.8 megapixel tracking, maximum acceleration of 15g and 125Hz USB polling rate all exactly the same. The only real point of difference in the specs is that the Diamondback is ambidextrous whilst the MX518 is soley right-handed. Oh, and the Razer mouse has a sexy blue glow around it.

I really really wanted to like this mouse as I had heard people rave about it for a long time, however it just wasn’t a good match for me. Perhaps I have oddly shaped or sized hands, but it was too small to control with my palm, and too big to claw-grip. Having a long and narrow footprint also caused it to capsize slightly during fast movement.

Lastly, being ambidextrous, there are two extra buttons on each side of the mouse in exactly the same place. This is a good thing for the thumb buttons (to throw grenades and suchlike in-game), but my pinky finger kept accidentally hitting the buttons on the other side. I ended up disabling those buttons so no huge drama, but it was still annoying.

Performance-wise it was fine: the buttons are nice and snappy with good tactile response, it has good glide, and the rubberised grips don’t get slippery or sticky after long gaming sessions. It’s a very light mouse which I actually prefer, but it also has a cheap plasticky feel to it.

Overall, I wouldn’t choose it over the likes of the Logitech MX518, but some of that decision is based on personal preference so don’t let me discourage you from at least checking it out if you’re looking for a gaming mouse in this price range.


Abyssus.





Next on the list, weighing in at $85 (which is odd, considering that it’s listed at a cheaper price than the Diamondback on Razer’s Australian website) you’ve got the Abyssus.

This mouse has ups and downs when compared to the Diamondback. On the plus side it has got an upgraded 3.5G infrared sensor with almost twice the precision at 3500DPI, 1000Hz USB ‘Ultrapolling’, and a sweet illuminated blue Razer logo where your palm sits (the rest of the technical specs are the same as the Diamondback). 

The downside, however, is that it doesn’t have any side buttons, the “On-The-Fly” sensitivity adjustment is on the bottom of the mouse, and it is tiny by comparison. To be fair though, the size might not be an issue for some gamers – in fact it was fine for me because I prefer a claw-grip, but there is no way that the average sized hand would be able to comfortably palm-control the Abyssus.

So I gave this mouse a fair crack at some Bad Company 2 online, and the positives it does offer where definitely appreciated – namely the higher precision and the ability to claw-grip it. Also, of course, the basic Razer awesomeness is still there like the Hyperesponse buttons and rubberised grip. I’m sure the 1000Hz USB polling helped with the response of the mouse as well, although that’s a hard thing to quantify.

I just couldn’t get past the shortcomings though, specifically the lack of side buttons and the bottom-mounted sensitivity adjustment switches. I can’t remember the last FPS game I played where I didn’t have ‘throw grenade’ assigned to the side button on my mouse so it was almost like missing a finger.

Also, switching sensitivity “on the fly” is supposed to be seamless, i.e. something that can be done in the heat of battle, but with bottom-mounted switches you need to stop what you’re doing, turn the mouse upside down, change the setting (hard set to 450, 1800 and 3500 DPI) then resume gaming. 

All up, I have trouble recognising the Abyssus as a true gaming mouse. I’m confused as to why Razer would put an upgraded sensor in it but then remove other, more crucial elements. Moving on…

DeathAdder.





Ah, yes, now to the good stuff. Basically, if you have $115 to spend on a mouse, just shut your face and go buy one of these. Now.

I suppose I should at least qualify that statement I suppose. Firstly, the form factor is, I feel, a serious improvement over the two mice above. It is asymmetrical (available in both right and left-hand editions) with a lean perfectly tailored to the natural resting angle of your hand.

It’s also a decently big mouse with good weight behind it, and I found I could both claw-grip and palm-control it quite comfortably. Inside the mouse is basically the Abyssus – 3500DPI, 1000Hz Ultrapolling and all the rest.   It also has a braided fibre cable, which tangles a lot less and looks a lot cooler than the cheap plastic covering of the other two mice.

One minor gripe I would have to make however would be the sensitivity adjustment. There is no dedicated button for changing the DPI settings – you have to assign one of the 5 main buttons to this, the best choice being one of the side buttons. In games like Modern Warfare, I like to use one side button for ‘change grenade type’ and the other for ‘throw grenade’, so you would have to sacrifice one of these to get the on-the-fly functionality, but it is not a problem in other games like Bad Company 2 with only one type of grenade available.

So to me, the DeathAdder just ‘felt’ right. When a mouse is so well-designed that you don’t have to consciously focus on operating it in-game, you know that is worth some serious brownie points. I’d steal one of these from the xLAN stage PCs buy one of these without hesitation if that was the price range I was looking at.

If I had slightly more dosh, however, I would go for the…

Mamba.





This mouse is like the DeathAdder, except wireless. And on steroids.

Gone is the 3500DPI infrared sensor, and in comes the 5600DPI Laser sensor. At this point I should probably mention that having a DPI this high is absolutely stupid. You would perform about a dozen 360 degree spins in game after moving the mouse just a few inches unless you’ve cranked the in-game sensitivity right down to compensate, but even then you will start to experience the dreaded negative-acceleration curse.

Having to resort to 1800-3500DPI doesn’t detract from the Mamba experience though – with the main attraction of course being the fact that it is wireless. I don’t know about you, but I hate the cord on my mouse, it always gets in the friggin’ way. People have been put off wireless gaming mice in past due to wireless lag, which is totally understandable given that most wireless mice are crap. I spent almost a full hour switching back and forth between the wired DeathAdder, the Mamba in wired mode, and the Mamba in wireless mode, just to see whether I could perceive any lag.

The result? Well, I *think* there is a slight perceivable difference, but that could be a placebo effect from my brain telling me to expect some wireless lag. Still, the fact that I can’t conclusively tell a difference should say something about its wireless performance. And yes, you can operate it in wired mode – just yank the USB cable from out of the back of the receiver and plug it straight into the mouse, simple as that. Razer claim up to 14 hours of continuous gaming out of one charge, and in my experience that is fairly accurate.

One thing which may be hit and miss about the Mamba is its weight, which is added to by the battery and the inner wireless technical bits. I personally didn’t find it too heavy, but neither would I have complained had it been any lighter. There also seems to be many reports about bugs and glitches with older versions of firmware. The first thing I did when I got the mouse was install the latest drivers and firmware, so I can’t give you my experiences with any of these sadly, but I can report that I didn’t experience any in the first place.

At the end of the day, does it justify the $229 price tag? Every cent. Especially considering that it launched not too long ago for $349.

Well there you have it: four Razer mice, four verdicts. Thanks for reading, and my thanks to PlayTech for giving me more toys to play with.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2010, 10:07:15 am by pablo d »

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Only read the Abyssus one as that's the mouse I have. Completely disagree with you about the need for side buttons, I prefer the simple 3-button mouse and find anything else unnecessary.

It's marketed towards the intellimouse 1.1a croud like the Steelseries Xai, high powered, modern sensor inside a more traditional body.

Great mouse, but you shouldn't be comparing it to more featureful mice when they are targeted at completely different groups of people.

Also lol at the Mamba, ridiculous price, and I don't see the need for all those buttons.

Also little tip: could be cool if you include photos & links to the products on the Playtech site for people interested in purchasing said products
« Last Edit: July 21, 2010, 10:40:40 pm by decap »

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Holy shit Pabs, that is awesome!!!!!!! I love the easy readability of your reviews dude, they never grow old or boring (like the Diamondback is).

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Do any of them support the scroll wheel side clicks. Like where you can move the wheel left or right, and register that as key strokes.

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love the rreview bro!

im using a genius ergo 555 for ages now LOL 


maybe i should upgrade....  but i'd rather spend 100+ dollars towards microphones, connectors or speakers tbh lol

 will look at upgrading!  thanks again!

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Ive got a Mamba its nice but it spends 90% of the time plugged in via the USB cable. 14hrs battery life just isn't enough, one decent gaming session and the damn thing is flat again.
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what did you just call me? o_O

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naga?!?!?!

Same id like to see him do a review of that beast.

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Just read the review and you've hit a lot of really valid points, and explained each mouse very well. So well done, I thoroughly enjoyed it, considering I am not in the market looking for a mouse ATM, but if I was I'm sure the review would've had an impact on my consumerism.

I'm using the Deathadder, after taking it away from XLAN 2010 and I am loving it to say the least. I've played with a MS1.0a for my early years, and a G5 for the last 5+ years and thought I was never going to change, but the Deathadder is just so damn nice. Technically amazing, and the comfort of the mouse surpasses anything else I have ever used. Only problem I had with it (to begin with) was it's weight, as I used a few weights in my G5 which gave it a more solid, smooth feeling and the Deathadder is much lighter than I am used to. But I am now used to it, and loving it. Highly recommend to anyone that likes slightly larger mice.

+1 for the review again.

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I use the Naga, and love it, if he can get it done quickly enough, I'm happy to lend him one of mine (yes I have two of them as I'm a filthy Naga whore :P ).

I shall talk to Mr D, and see what his review schedule is like for early next week.

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I told you to watch this space!

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Woah, love that review on the Mamba, will definitely consider Razer as a new alternative to the mainstream Logitech that's sitting in my head at the moment.

If you wouldn't mind, could you do a little heads up review on this naga everyone is talking about? Is it an upgrade of the mamba?
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Woah, love that review on the Mamba, will definitely consider Razer as a new alternative to the mainstream Logitech that's sitting in my head at the moment.

If you wouldn't mind, could you do a little heads up review on this naga everyone is talking about? Is it an upgrade of the mamba?

Na its just a gay mouse with too many buttons for wow whores :)
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More programmable buttons?


Ballin', hope you can squeeze in a little review for this bad boy, wouldn't mind seeing if there are too many buttons which allow you to accidentally the mouse, or they are perfectly placed.
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bear in mind, I've never played an RPG/MMORPG in my life :P

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The level of reviews around here is really good, written in a easily read manner, cheers.... +1

would like to see a comparative review between the top MS, Logi & Razer mice though....

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Yeah these reviews go past all the bullshit and political correctness of it all, and puts it in straight terms for the average gamer.


Just had a browse through your previous reviews, and they are all of similar layout, fucking top notch job pablo!
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You should consider doing a review based around the top tier mice from each of the major brands (Logitech, Razer, Steelseries, Roccat etc). As I'm sure with the Razer range; the more you pay, the better it will be. But is this the case among various brands, based on similar products ?

ie The Steelseries Xai / Razer Deathadder.

Just an idea solely because I think you're a great reviewer. :)

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I'll see what I can do :) the tricky part is getting access to the products...

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Hmmmmm - nice idea actually. Let's talk away from this Pablo, and we can organise some samples to play with.

As for the Naga, yes it was designed as a WoW mouse effectively (and even has a WoW add on released from Razer for it among their downloads) but I use it as an ultimate macro/button assigning mouse. You can map any key to any button, and then obviously assign it in a game profile. The inner workings are the 5700dpi style Laser set up Pablo refers to in the Mamba/Imperator, and the actual shape is a decent palm with claw use. I'll let Pablo do the rest, but it's a great mouse away from MMO's IMO (thus why I have two - one for each PC).

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yeah let's take this offline, we'll talk about it when you come to bed...

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I love my Diamondback, I'm so used to it's shape now other mice feel weird, especially heavier ones. the sidebuttons are perfect.

Razer mice have a bit of a rep in some parts for not lasting though, due to shoddy parts or engineering or whatever. My first Diamondback did die fairly quickly, only got 1-2 years use from it. Diamondback 3G hasn't crapped out yet though.

 

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